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Ep. 14 - Harmonizing Body and Mind: The Symphony of Holistic Health with Dr. Cari Jacobson

• Renee Barasch

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Embark on a transformative journey through the realms of holistic health as we unlock the secrets to a balanced life with the guidance of Dr. Cari Jacobson from Be Optimal Health and Wellness. This episode peels back the layers of structural, biochemical, and emotional wellness, scrutinizing how they intertwine to shape our health. With Dr. Cari's deep dive into applied kinesiology and muscle testing, you'll understand why these practices are more than just fringe science—they're crucial tools for pinpointing and addressing the incongruences that affect our well-being.

Strap in for an enthralling exploration of Quantum Neurology and the emotional healing arts. You won't want to miss the compelling stories demonstrating the power of Neuromotional Technique, Lifeline Technique, and Quantum Neuro Reset Therapy, especially in the aftermath of COVID-19. These stories are more than just triumphs of health; they're testaments to the potential for recovery that lies in the harmony of our body's systems, as poetic yet precise as an orchestra in perfect tune.

To cap off our session, we unravel the intricacies of maintaining holistic health over time, revealing the specialized approaches needed for various cases, including those at the end of life. We highlight the importance of a tailored maintenance routine, the necessity of a strong health 'army,' and the vital role of functional medicine when traditional paths prove insufficient. Our conversation isn't just about managing symptoms; it's a rallying cry for addressing the root causes and crafting a vibrant, resilient life with the support—but not the crutch—of supplements. Join us for this enlightening episode, rich with insights and strategies to empower your health journey.



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Renee:

Welcome everybody to the Tummy Whisperer podcast. I'm your host, renee Barish. I am very excited today because I've gotten a very special guest on. I have Dr Cari Jacobson on from Be Optimal Health and Wellness and we're here together to talk to you guys today about what it would look like to maybe take a little step forward with your health.

Renee:

And I know this is a time of year where so many people are thinking about what can they do to feel better, people already feeling like shit from the holidays anyway, and they're like, okay, I'm going to start January 2nd, right or 1st or whatever, but they don't know what to do and who to look to. And I want to talk to you guys about encouraging you to partner with people in the holistic realm. You need your medical doctor for what you need them for, but you need a holistic healer or a chiropractic physician who works with nutrition and mind body structure all of the above to help your body just keep up with a toxic load that we have to deal with in this world. So, with that being said, I want to just hand it over to Dr Cari and have her introduce herself and talk to you guys a little bit about what she does and go from there. So take it away, dr.

Dr. Cari:

Cari, yeah, thank you. I'm super psyched to be here and I was thinking today on my way to work just how long I've been in practice. I've been practicing for 17 years officially. You have to be unofficial on your students and need to practice on everyone, like whether it's in the bathroom stall or just throw somebody up against the like classroom wall or whatever, while we practice and try to get really good.

Dr. Cari:

But my passion and what brought me to chiropractic school to begin with was that I was exposed to an applied kinesiologist. Little did I know the extent of what applied kinesiology is, but ultimately it looks at the body and it looks at health from what we reference as the triad so structurally, biochemically and emotionally and how everything's interlinked and connected so that if one aspect is off balance, it can throw everything else off balance. Right, it's like that equilateral triangle that can collapse if one piece of it is out. And what I've been noticing, what I notice a lot, is a lot of people talk about biochemistry and if you have a parasite, then you do this, and if you have a thyroid issue or hormone problems, like you can take this supplement, you can do that sort of thing and and still in, that's like symptom managing, it's symptom chasing, and what I've and ultimately what I've found, is that it isn't just one thing. It's eschewarney right, it is such a journey. Our health is a journey and there really isn't an ultimate. The ultimate destination, of course, is to be in our thriving. But because change is the only constant and life happens and we don't live in a bubble, we're constantly exposed to stressors and different things. So we're constantly working to find that state of homeostasis and to be in balance and to be in that state of thriving. So it is truly about having a partner or an army of people that, based on what's going on, who you need support from and how you can get help and how to laser in and so on.

Dr. Cari:

Now, as in applied kinesiology, we use muscle testing as a diagnostic tool. It's a way of guiding. So a lot of people are super skeptical about muscle testing. It looks like a big bunch of bullshit and I call it. I'm like who's the biggest skeptic here? Whenever I give health classes, I'm like great, you're the one to come up, because it's one thing to talk about it and it's another to like fully experience it right. And when you experience it you recognize like the body just doesn't lie. We are energetic circuits and when there are incongruencies, if we fall weak and it doesn't mean we're weak like you can get the strongest dude in the gym and hold something up that is incongruent with his neurology or biochemistry or physiology or whatever. Put it in his mouth if it's something like like a sugar packet or something like that, and it doesn't matter that he just lifted 300 pounds, he will go weak, because it's a matter of whether the muscle is facilitating or inhibiting. It isn't about strength and weakness. We, that's the guide, the guide.

Renee:

And if you think about it in terms of circuitry, like you're explaining. I tell people, think about your heart. Your heart is a circuit. It needs that circuitry. Your whole body is an energy field. Yes, and it helps them to understand it a little bit more, but maybe there's some more light you can shine on that as well too, because it is hard to explain it's super hard to explain.

Dr. Cari:

I usually will demonstrate with I have this doll like she, her, she sings, ring around the rosy, it's like wiggies. It's a little yikes. What is she? It's happening. But you can hold her hand and have the person next to you hold the hand and you can have a circle of 50 to 100 people and the 50th person can let go of the person next to them's hand and rosy stops singing. And they did that.

Renee:

I was with Sharon. I was. There was maybe six.

Dr. Cari:

Yes, I remember that, yeah, super cool. So in that it shows that, regardless of how many people, how few people we do, we we are like a battery, we're created, we're in that way, or energy, we create a circuit and something can break that circuit. It could be something biochemically, it could be like something that we eat or breathe or touch or drink. It could be that we physically pushed our body a little bit too hard and we maybe injured ourselves and then that kind of breaks the circuit.

Dr. Cari:

It can be that we are dealing with emotions and stress, and I really find that the emotional stress piece is the part that's highly ignored, isn't looked at, but it goes with a lot of what you do to Renee, which is emotional eating, and how do we navigate some of that stuff and how do we, how do we choose, like more mindfully for the stuff that we want to put into our body and at what time will this particular diet or food fad work for me here versus over here, and how do I navigate that and figure it out? There's so many things but at the end of the day, if you always see yourself fat, whether you're 30 pounds lighter or 30 pounds heavier, what's the root of that like that's emotional thing emotional stuff.

Renee:

So my teacher, dr lumas, who's a chiropractor and taught me everything I know about nutrition, structure and balance and all that says, if it's not a mechanical issue and it's not a structural issue, always look to the emotional stuff.

Renee:

And I just know being in my own 58 year old body and healing the way I heal and navigating life the way I navigate there's so much old stuff and it's not that it keeps me from moving forward, it's just helping to lift these layers and help bring out more of me, more of really who I want to be, which leads me to actually and I don't want to steal your thunder, dr Kerry, but I saw Dr Cari's partner, Dr. Abby, a long time ago before I moved out here to the border of Wisconsin, and I'm actually going to be circling back to Dr Kerry's office to work on the emotional piece through something that they do called QNRT, and I'll let Dr Kerry explain that.

Renee:

But what I want to, I want the audience to hear, is that if you're stuck on any level, sometimes you can even grab an essential oil, like I just am nauseous you grab some peppermint. That's wonderful, right, start to lean into that. What else is going on and what can you do to really think about partnering with somebody to help move yourself forward? When Dr Kerry's talked about that emotional neural rewiring, it's humongous, so I don't know if you want it to pop in there or go somewhere else.

Dr. Cari:

But I agree, I think having tools and strategies and support is key to health and wellness and I always say we're building your arsenal of stuff for your health. But yeah, so in order to navigate the triad, I am certified in practice probably like 20 different modalities and to be honest, I would say there's never like a stealing of my thunder. I celebrate practitioners that are working towards helping others thrive and it's why I had the vision and held the vision for BeOptimal. So BeOptimal Holistic Health Center we're in Skokie but we do remote sessions as well. So we treat internationally and nationally and obviously we can't do the physical manipulation chiropractically, but we do energetic, emotional and biochemical work in terms of guiding people to what is specifically needed for their body at this time. So there's no cookie cutter approach. We really get specific to each individual in terms of what they need. And on the emotional side, all three docs here, all three chiropractic kinesiologists Dr Naomi, dr Abbey, myself are certified in neuromotional technique. I believe Dr Abbey, as well as I know myself, is certified in the lifeline technique, which looks at the subconscious emotional patterning and then lately, especially with COVID and the shutdown, just everything that that did biochemically to people as well as emotionally.

Dr. Cari:

I have found it's really been important to look at the neurology and so I've upped my game in something I've already been practicing and Dr Naomi was trained in functional neurology, but both of us practice quantum neurology, which is looking at all the energy of your cranial nerves, like getting your operating system back online, and I really think that's a big reason why people get thrown off in a major way, and I personally experienced long COVID, so my brain was literally not functioning. I could not. There would be, I could only see three or four patients a day and I would shut down. I could not hear what somebody was saying. I could not integrate it. My brain was not working for me.

Dr. Cari:

It was very weird, it was very freaky, and I shared that with a newer friend who practiced in Atlanta and she is I have some ideas, I'm going to bring it to Chicago because she actually was calling to get treated by me and I was like I'm happy to help you, but I'm a little jacked up right now, but I'll do my best and whatever. So she flew in and we got her worked on and the whole thing and she's like all right, I've got some stuff here. So she started doing what unbeknownst to me, what's called quantum neural reset therapy, q and RT. She did that. She did quantum neurology mixed in with some of the methylation piece that I've also gotten certified in. So this was my motivation to like super up, level myself and learn, because in one session I'll fast forward to the, to the chase or to the, to the result, which is that in one session I was pulled out of long COVID.

Dr. Cari:

That fast Now it was for me for about 75 minutes straight. I processed like a great Z that evening. I went to bed that night. I woke up and I have not had the symptoms since. Knock on wood, now that was years ago.

Renee:

You're going to make me cry. That's crazy. I didn't know you had long COVID. Oh my gosh.

Dr. Cari:

Yes, it was two months too long and thank God for these tools. But what happened and what I realized was one there was deep seated emotion around COVID for me and I've been. I was super bullied from day one by my family, who I love dearly, but I am a black sheep hardcore and it was very hard for me. It was like really hard for me. So, without clearing the trauma that created for me and why, I believe the door opened for me to actually get as sick as I did, I wouldn't have been able to like receive anything else. So that's what Q and R T did.

Dr. Cari:

Now Q and R T taps into the brain and allows the brain to prioritize what cortex of the brain is affected by whatever the trauma is, on multiple levels. I could get really deep, but it's not worth this moment of doing that. The cranial nerves associated, the hypothalamus, the specific reflex points and the emotions associated and the clearing is all of that all at the same time. It's so. I was like you want me to what? What she's tapping my head. I'm looking this way, I'm this, I'm this.

Dr. Cari:

I have no idea what she's doing and I wanted to pay attention to what she was saying. I had no idea what she was saying. Tears are streaming but I don't know why. I literally don't know why I'm emotional because I can't hear what she's saying, because I have to focus on my this and my tapping and I don't even know it was crazy. But after I got out of it all I was like, whatever you just did, I will. I vow to learn, and I'm now certified in Q and R T and I've completed all the methylation classes and I've already had done quantum neurology. I just learned how to integrate it in a way that could help people and pull them out of long COVID and some of these other really deep neurological issues, along with deep trauma, traumatic issues.

Renee:

It's been super cool.

Dr. Cari:

Eight of my 12 cranial nerves were offline, eight operating system.

Renee:

It only takes one. Like I always tell my clients, if you have an orchestra with one violin out of tune, what's that going to sound like? Same thing Totally. That's a great analogy. I just think. I'm so blown away. I'm so excited for you and I'm so excited for my appointment with Dr Naomi next week.

Janine:

I have a doctor, dr Kerry. I have a question. Yeah, is this something that can be done virtually, these techniques, could you treat someone with this, this method, virtually, or do you have to be in person?

Dr. Cari:

That's a great question. You cannot change neurology in a distance, at a distance, so quantum neurology and Q and R? T has to be done in person In my experience. I just ask you because you're literally changing the neurology of that person.

Renee:

But possibly maybe down the road. We ask Kerry to have a like a fly in for whoever wants to fly in and get her super charged up so she can clear everybody.

Renee:

There might be chiropractors in your genes in Florida and there's got to be chiropractors out there that do this Q and R T, but it's a big piece and I just I really want to get clear with people that everything is emotional. There's nothing that's not emotional. If you're not emotional, you're dead. Okay, so you have emotions around food, around your husband, around your dog, around your work, around your doctor, around your friend, what they said, whatever it is, there's always emotion around that. That automatically changes your neurology and your physioneurology. It changes it immediately, almost as quickly as putting something in your mouth that shouldn't be there. So how do you build this whole like Dr Kerry said, this army how do you get yourself online? You've got to get yourself online with good nutrition, good hydration and good fricking emotional health, and you need help for that. It is not easy.

Renee:

I actually have experienced for the past three and a half years something called psycho neuroimmunology. I work with a person that does that and it is life changing for me. It's a way for my body to not react to stimulus and stress in the environment and bring up these old patterns and even when they do come up, if all of a sudden I feel like I'm having trouble with my lungs, which I have trouble with my lungs if I can get quiet and allow that to be there, which is fucking impossible, because who wants to feel their pain? Nobody wants to feel the pain, right. But when you can get quiet and you can partner with somebody to help you through that momentum of the scariness, the fear, all that stuff, you can really get yourself moved forward. And you've got to find the right person. You've got to find. I have so many clients coming to me. I love my chiropractor, ding ding. I love that you need to have a holistic physician to help you with that whole triad.

Janine:

Sure, there's a ton of practitioners in South Florida that can do that. When you find someone that you like, it's so interesting. I'm so interested in knowing more about what she does.

Renee:

It's like removing those old trauma loops removes those patterns and our body is wired through neurology bottom line. So it's not about muting the neurology or shutting off your neurology.

Janine:

It's about helping your neurology be in this world, and is this something that's done through neurologist or it's taboo for a neurologist and it's only done through alternative health practitioners, through?

Renee:

chiropractic neurologists. I wouldn't think a regular neurologist would really have an idea of this. If they're on the holistic side, they might think it was cool, but they wouldn't know how to do it. This is very specialized training. It's super specialized training. You heard her talking about putting her tongue here, and when I was actually going through Q and RT with another chiropractor who did it who's not doing it anymore I remember feeling so good but I didn't do a lot. I was just holding stuff. So I'm excited to actually go into Dr Cari's office. I'm going to make the drive from Fox Lake. It's about an hour and 15 minutes away, but I'm looking forward to rejiggering some of the stuff right on out.

Janine:

So I love that when she said Skokie. And one of my oldest childhood friends, who now is in Texas, was born and raised in Skokie, illinois, cool.

Renee:

I grew up one summer away from there in Lincoln Woods Wow yeah. And Dr Cari's office was in Glenview, which is only like 15 minutes away from there, for many years and they've expanded. Like I said, she's got a medical doctor in there, they've got a nurse practitioner I think it's a nurse practitioner doing IV therapy, iv nutrition, proper IV nutrition, because you don't just want to put a B vitamins for somebody who doesn't downregulate it. You have to know what you're doing. So I think it's pretty awesome.

Renee:

They think about stuff that's maybe a little bit stressful. It's an automatic physiology, physiological change in the body. So how do we strengthen your body to not really have a huge response to this? So I was talking about psychoneuroimmunology, which is a type of psychotherapy that works with mind-body connection and it works with having releasing some of those hooks of trauma or stress that people experience as a child and or any time in their life, and having that duplicate itself in your current life, right now. But in a perfect world, your neurology should be able to allow you to say, hey, I'm going to go enjoy this time, I'm not going to be quiet, I'm going to speak by mind, whatever I want to speak, and my body is not going to let me know that I'm having a problem by getting acid reflux or a stomach ache or a headache, or I can't breathe. The body just responds. It's the same thing. If you're starving and you smell something in your salivary gland, go shh, that's it. That's your brain telling your salivary gland. Hey, there's a chocolate cupcake over there.

Janine:

I'm on it. That sounds good. As long as it's gluten-free, I'm down.

Renee:

Exactly, exactly. And your lungs, your palms get sweaty when you're nervous, because you're about to speak or whatever it is. That's your physiology, that's your neurology telling your brain oh my God, you have to do something stressful and your body's responding. It's the same thing that Dr Cari does. It's the same exact thing that she's talking about helping that the neurology not respond, but be a little more stable so that your body isn't in this fight or flight all the time. You know what I mean. So true, yeah, and then as humans, we react to fight or flight by making poor food choices, right, or making an alcohol choice. Now, I'm not saying wine is bad, I'm saying wine every day is probably bad, right, and at least without the histamine one, because that thing helps remove the histamine. So you could probably have one every day if you took the histamines out. But on the same level. Moderation, enjoyment, fulfillment. I like to try to help people find the joy in eating so that they're not feeling so restricted again.

Janine:

You help me find the joy in eating. That is the one thing I could honestly say after struggling with an eating disorder for so many years and the psychological effects and the physical effects that has on someone's body, which I don't tell everyone about because people just don't understand. They don't understand it. It's not an addiction like alcoholism or even drug addiction that is almost okayed in society as oh, I understand that. But if you say you're recovering from anorexia or bulimia, people don't get it and they just don't get it.

Renee:

Dr Cari is trying to get back on here. She just asked me to call her, so let's see here She'll answer.

Janine:

Yeah, I keep. You know what? It's funny because your background Renee. Every time I look at it I keep thinking that Rook is going to move from his bed because it's so real looking that I'm like, oh my God, it's Rook and it's just, he's just chilling.

Renee:

Hang on. His trainer would be so proud. What a good place. He's not even moving a muscle.

Janine:

Exactly, exactly. He's a show dog.

Renee:

Talk about a place, don't move a muscle Rook. Dr Kerr.

Janine:

I have a million questions. So pretend I'm the village idiot and I'm sitting here and I'm like what is this? Q and R, t? And for I have a friend of mine, david, who's actually commenting what is that? What exactly? Is it a series of movements that's done by someone in your field? What is it exactly?

Dr. Cari:

Okay, so it uses muscle testing or reflex testing, because that triggers in the neurology Like the athlete putting the sugar on his tongue, and then there's a response.

Renee:

So that's the first part.

Dr. Cari:

So actually the first part in this is getting the cerebellum online. Oh, so the cerebellum is a cortex. So just because it's the cerebellum online doesn't mean you're working with just the cerebellum as the cortex, although that's one of the main baseline components to really getting somebody back online. But it actually uses to stand up two feet together and you see which way somebody bobbles. That's usually the side of the brain that needs support. If the cerebellum is not online, then you have to take it further. How are you tapping in and taking it further?

Dr. Cari:

You use laser light. So specifically red light is used for most everything. Green light is specifically for inflammation along with some other things, and then an added blue light is in for some toxic reactions to things. That's more advanced. So usually you've got to get more of the baseline lower portions of the brain first. So you're working more the cerebellum, midbrain, brainstem and cerebral medulla for those brain nerds that know the specific cortexes of the brain. So you're working those four initially to build strength, if you will, in the brain, and then you can start working some of the upper parts, the post-sensory, premotor, et cetera.

Janine:

Interesting, thank you and in one session you were saying you were cured of long COVID. Typically do people buy a package, or how does that work?

Dr. Cari:

Is it per session or yeah, and that session was a mix of three different techniques and that is truly, I would say, the magic of what I do and what we do here. Our chiropractic chemistologists tend to be weavers of magic, because we weave specific techniques and things that are needed for that particular person in that particular moment. That's the beauty of muscle testing, because the bodies and the intelligence guides that. So how do I usually see people? I would say usually I'll plan for once a week or once every other week, just depending on how sick somebody is or not. Now I tend to see really complicated cases, unfortunately. I sometimes would appreciate just a little simple headache or low back pain or a little allergy. That would be nice, but yeah, so usually I don't see people more than once a week, unless the only time I've ever done that is actually helping somebody transition out of life, and then time is literally of the essence and we're helping them to transition and get aligned and OK in the best possible way. Wow and something. Yeah, yeah, it's something. Yeah, I can't say it's happened a ton, but I have. Really it's an honor in some way and it's super intense. But I would say once a week so that you have ample time to integrate the work. Sometimes somebody needs a couple of weeks to integrate everything that's done. Usually the sessions the first session is always an hour and I use every minute of it, and then some. This is why I was late today, so I apologize and then follow ups are usually 30 minutes. Now if it's a baby or kids or someone that's been seeing me for a while, usually I can do a whole lot in 15 minutes. So it just depends. But usually follow ups are 15 and 30 minutes.

Dr. Cari:

The goal is to get people on maintenance. So for some people I'm like once a month is great or once a season, and other people I'll say I'll see you in four weeks, every three to four weeks is fine, and I'll say the minute I hit three weeks is just too long. Really, that two to three week mark is more for me for maintenance. That feels best to me because they run their body real hard, they run life really hard or just stress or whatever. So then I always say you best and then you do what's right for you. And for some people are like I know you want me here every two weeks, but the budget doesn't allow for it and I just literally don't have time, it becomes stressful and it's less. That would defeat the purpose. We don't want to create more stress, so we just work with what people can do. Then, and maybe that is just once a month, we'll still get results. It just might take a little bit longer to get the results that we're looking for.

Renee:

But it's okay as long as we're continuing to move.

Renee:

And who might be somebody that would benefit from this? Anybody with any digestive issues, anybody with any stress in their life, work, stress, whatever it is. If you have just gas and bloating, I can absolutely tell you that there's an old pattern there somewhere. It could be what you're eating, it certainly could be dairy, it certainly could be gluten, it could be high histamine foods, whatever, but that stuff all translates into your digestive tract. So for someone like you, janine, who's feeling so good, you're gluten free, you're rocking it, you're feeling great, you've got this great eating habit. Now You're having joy back in. What you're eating was just so important, right? What if something else showed up for you now? Because, as you shared with me things, it certainly could be great for you to take a little tiptoe through the two of us with a professional who knows how to help you move that stuff through. And again, this is the whole premise of this live is we all need a partner. Dr Cari said we need an army. I'm with her on that, 100%.

Janine:

I believe that 100%. I believe that 100%.

Janine:

Yeah, you need a team and I think, people. My best friend of, oh gosh, 37 years I'm really aging myself, but 37 years has now adopted an entire holistic health routine for her husband and her family no red dye, no gluten, no that functional medicine to the max, because obviously what's happening a lot of the times is not working, and so when things are failing to work in traditional medicine, I think people are like all right, I'll do whatever it takes. Tell me what's wrong and how to fix it, and how I can feel better and how I can live longer in the healthiest way possible. Right.

Renee:

People want to.

Dr. Cari:

They want to 20 people could come in as you know this, renee too 20 people could walk in with digestive issues, and every single person, every one of those 20 people. There's a different root cause and reason for it, oh yeah.

Renee:

And it's not usually here's the answer.

Dr. Cari:

And yep, just take some digestive enzymes. You're good to go bye, bye. Yeah, it's not like you could play a role. Sure, Would that help manage the symptoms. While you get to the root cause of why that person might be refluxing every time they eat, or as one here in here today. She's like every time I eat I burp. Now and I think it's for multiple reasons and I do think she might have a crater going on. But in the meantime she needs help digesting her food period and a story. So she needs tools to do some of those things. But what's the reason it's happening?

Renee:

And to your point earlier too, is about the supplements are important, but they're water wings. It's not even like a life vest. They're only water wings to keep you floating. Supplementation is important, but this is really where the magic is for sure. So now I think you're freezing again, dr.

Janine:

Luke Hmastergoulop.

Dr. Cari:

No, not really.

Janine:

Yeah, let me, let's see, let me. Can you do something on your engine? Yeah, I'm going to remove her. Yeah, just removed her, just to make sure. I think we should do a part two on this.

Dr. Cari:

Okay, we can carry.

Renee:

Yeah, because there is so much that I there's so much to talk about with this, I know, I know I would love to have her on again. Yeah, part two, definitely We'll do a part two. I feel bad They'll have to work on their band with maybe, or get like a hotspot or something, or hardwire them or something. Maybe they can have whoever does their computers over there to make sure that she doesn't drop out again for sure. But yeah, so for those people that are interested, like I said, find your local chiropractor. See if they do any kind of not just muscle testing.

Renee:

Qnrt is quantum neural reset technique, any kind of she mentioned lifeline technique. There's 10,000 other ones. But find what works for you If you are looking for a partner in your health, your local nutritionists, tummy whisperer, digestive health specialists, physical therapist, whoever is psychotherapist, whoever you need to help put you on the path so that you can keep moving forward. Sometimes we're on the path and sometimes we're just coasting and we're just stuck on the path, which is totally okay too, and if we're stuck on the path, that's not a bad thing, right? It's just letting us know. Hey, who do we find to help us, push us forward Hard?

Janine:

to. So yeah, so this is fascinating. I had never heard of this QNRT.

Renee:

An acronym.

Janine:

I've that's what it's called. I believe it's an acronym. I've never heard of that acronym before until today, and most care it's done by most chiropractic physicians.

Renee:

And just to touch for a minute on chiropractic, everybody thinks of them as just fat crackers and they're not. I want to stress the point that chiropractic is really anatomy and physiology married by neurology, again back to your nervous system. So when somebody like Dr Carey or a chiropractor can take the pressure off your nervous system by giving you a nice chiropractic adjustment, that also helps their internal terrain, your organs and everything else work better. So chiropractic kinesiology, better nutrition, better hydration, better sleep and if your sleep is so messed up it's because obviously I go right to digestion and drainals and stress and it's the same loop that we've been talking about for the past 40 minutes. Makes sense. Oh, let me see here, let me see. I'm trying to call her, she's trying to call me. She's saying, yes, part two, part two.

Renee:

But for people who are interested, dr Carey owns Be Optimal Health and Wellness in Skokie, illinois. Like I said, they do. They can do some remote stuff, of course. All of my stuff is done, telehealth and remote. I'm blessed and honored to have clients from all over the United States and medical doctors sending me their patients, because the few that send know that the patients just don't want to take acid reflux medication and that's not the fix anyway. That's a possible symptom reliever for a moment, but it's really shutting off your digestion. We can talk for hours about that.

Renee:

But, yeah, but I again want to lovingly encourage everybody. It's a new year. Take charge, you know, if nothing changes right. So you have to make a little effort and you're worth it. Your family is relying on you, your pets are relying on you, your coworkers are relying on you, and you need to take care of yourself and don't use money as the excuse to not. We have to invest in your health. It's an investment, not an expense.

Janine:

So I'm off for so long. There she is Dr Carey, I'm here.

Renee:

I just want to be optimized, gave your location, it's okay.

Dr. Cari:

Oh, my God, hilarious. I heard you say let's do a part two and I was thinking the same exact thing, because it's more digestible, than people will have questions and that kind of thing, and it's truly my joy again to be able to offer the support and the information I really. Doctor in latin means to teach, so educate first, then treat, because then that empowers people with tools also to like really be able to navigate. And the other thing I wanted to say before I get freaking cut off again so funny, I can hear you and then you guys are like I can't hear you, like I see you, I know what that is.

Dr. Cari:

That nutrition piece is super foundational. It's like someone is super clean Can, has taken out inflammatory foods and all that. They can be fine tuned so quickly because you don't have to clear the cobwebs in the clouds, because it really already done their work to lay that foundation down from a biochemical level. It's so super important. So like getting people to really understand in general, I talk about the five basics water, food, rest. Exercise on your power with quality, quantity and frequent.

Dr. Cari:

So good quality water, a great quantity, right, have your body weight announces or so, and with frequency. Keep the river running. Food avoided the inflammatory stuff, the wheat, the sugar, the corn, the soy, the dairy, the like crap that just makes us feel like crap literally and making sure that we get rest. If you're not sleeping, you're not restoring. So if that's a problem, that's got to be our priority, you have to get people sleeping. It's such a big problem and it's ultimately just means people's autonomic nervous systems are not regulated. They they don't know how to fire up the Paris and, pathetic they don't know how to rest and digest. Well, they're constantly in that fire to flight and they can't seem to come down. That's a big problem. That also means you won't integrate healing. You won't heal well, right Exercise, right when we're moving, like more, more balanced everything's more balanced in our life or circulations.

Dr. Cari:

Better, everything's better. And there are ways to do it. When you physically can't like, sitting in an infrared sonic gives you a subtle, it gives the body of physiological responses. If you're doing aerobic exercise when you're not, but you're sweating and you're detoxing at the same time, it'd be very beneficial. And then just owning your power if you don't feel passionate about something, then what's the point of getting out of bed and trying to eat healthfully and drink good quality water? Right, it's just as important to me as like all this other stuff. So, in general, when we have access to doing sort of the five basics and we are educated on how to better do it, like that is the foundation and now we can build off of it and start clearing the subconscious emotional stuff and supporting it with homeopathy and vitamins and supplements and things like that. So yeah, yeah, it was perfect.

Renee:

Yeah, no, very well said and I think, for and again, the whole idea of this podcast was to really help people just take a step in, do something. If you're going to go gluten free or try to take dairy out or something, and they have somebody help you along with it, so that you can really step into feeling like you're partnering with somebody for your health. It is so important. It's hard to do by yourself and I'm so grateful that I have the team, that I have a village of an army. I've got army Navy, air Force Marines.

Renee:

I'm just super excited to get started on my Q and RT and I think we're going to definitely have to do a part two because I think this is motivating for a lot of people. Like Dr Perry said, I know she's frozen against public and hear me, but people are going to have questions, they're going to have questions and we'll definitely do a part two and this is just super exciting. So, dr Kerry, thank you so much for taking time out of your very busy day and busy practice to be with me and Jeanine and help give some information to people who I think are going to get excited about doing something great with their health in 2024. For sure.

Janine:

And please download, subscribe to the tummy whisperer. We're on YouTube, follow, share, review on Apple, spotify or your preferred platform. With the podcast goes a long way. We hope you learn something. Renee is the best in her field. She has helped me tremendously with the best of health. I've gone through her program and so if you have any questions, her information is below. You can go to the tummy whisperer calm. In the show notes there's a link that you can have a consultation with her and we. I did it all virtually. I've lived in Florida. She lives in Chicago or outside of Chicago, illinois.

Renee:

I'm not going to go to Wisconsin, but yeah, or Wisconsin, whatever, wherever she's living today.

Janine:

The point is, we're 1000s of miles away and we were able to. She was able to help me, so she can help you.

Renee:

Absolutely. I absolutely can. Thank you everybody for listening. See everybody in two weeks.